Zafina TTT2 Changes and Updates

[Cell]

•ff4 and ff2 now track both ways.

•ff4 has less range

•Ws1,2 launches on normal hit.

•there is a 3rd hit to df1,2 (2) mid, as far as I know the last hit is not NC on normal and
does not juggle on CH

•last hit of 2,1,3 can be cancelled to MNT by pressing D.

•cancel for d/b 3~b is more fluid and has less recovery frames.

•d3 is a low that recovers crouching.

•uf1+2 range 2 move. Mid and recovers in TRT

•1,3 now recovers in SCR. 1,3~b to recover standing.

•df4,1~d cancels second hit and recovers crouching.

•SCR df4 does not give any sort of juggle on CH anymore.

•CH MNT 4 no longer gives KND for a short combo anymore. Instead MNT 4,3 is a CH launcher. <---NEW

FRAME CHANGES
- df1,2: -12 to -15
- df1,2,2: -12
- d2,4,3: -16 to -14 (I would assume TRT 4,3 would be the same as well)

[GrudgeGhost]

seems like a good balance. but i'll take the range with the ff+4 over the 1,3 to scarecrow

[Cell]

seems like a good balance. but i'll take the range with the ff+4 over the 1,3 to scarecrow

I love both changes. -10 punisher into SCR 1+2? Yes please.

[*****]

new move for zafina at 1:27

anyone?

[Eternal Blaze]

yeah thats new, guess its a transition to tarantula stance. its possible that it might be an actual hit move as well that you can feint/cancel into the stance.. nice find =D

[Cell]

new move for zafina at 1:27

anyone?

That would be her new move uf1+2.

It'll be interesting to see what possible oki situations that will create post-B!.

[*****]

thanks, I thought so.

I will keep you up to date with any new moves I find for her

[GrudgeGhost]

it looks like an attack grabs that transition to TRT on whiff. that's just my guess

but wat is the move she did in 1:45

[Cell]

it looks like an attack grabs that transition to TRT on whiff. that's just my guess

but wat is the move she did in 1:45

I don't it's an attack grab. I think it's like Kuma's u1+2 that hits mid and transitions into TRT.

The move she did at 1:45 is her brand new d3.

I also edited the OP with an update.

[GrudgeGhost]

I see that no one mentioned Zafina's d/f+4,1 is cancelable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YM07xwmn4

[*****]

http://www.buzzsprout.com/3308/40134-zafina

pros discuss zafina

[GrudgeGhost]

I didn't think you word that right. Pros discuss? i happen to know how to take care of zafina unlike the pros that aint usin her right in those videos

[Cell]

I see that no one mentioned Zafina's d/f+4,1 is cancelable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YM07xwmn4

Um it was in the OP when I posted this thread.

"df4,1~d"

[GrudgeGhost]

dang sorry i missed it

[PhenominalSystems]

Is her d/f4,1~cancel any used. I mean what good comes out of it. N also, if the opponent blocks the first hit is it safer to cancel or it doesnt matter

[crystal3d]

Hello All,
I am a tekken fan since tekken 2 and i have always played instinctively, but the things your two mention here sounds not so alien to me... some attacks to be safe or stuff...attack frames...

for one, i know that if you get hit by an attack , you will have to (guess where it will land and) defend the next one. You sound like there is a deeper system for defending and attacking.

Can you direct me to a well written guide that explains it throughly? I am especially curous about attacks and their frames, what does an -12 frame mean? what matters if an attack is -20.

just a good written guide is sufficient.

thanks

[PhenominalSystems]

Hello All,
I am a tekken fan since tekken 2 and i have always played instinctively, but the things your two mention here sounds not so alien to me... some attacks to be safe or stuff...attack frames...

for one, i know that if you get hit by an attack , you will have to (guess where it will land and) defend the next one. You sound like there is a deeper system for defending and attacking.

Can you direct me to a well written guide that explains it throughly? I am especially curous about attacks and their frames, what does an -12 frame mean? what matters if an attack is -20.

just a good written guide is sufficient.

thanks

Here is a link on explaining what frame data is and how to use it
http://m.gamefaqs.com/boards/928302-tekken-6/53400345

here is a link on each individual characters frame data
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/tekken-6-frame-data/

did this help?

[*****]

http://www.tekkennation.com/tekken_news ... rame-date/

heres a really good tutorial I made

and here is another by tiex

http://www.tekkennation.com/tekken_news ... r-dummies/

[crystal3d]

Thanks Deebo, i will have a look.

good day to you all

[GrudgeGhost]

i saw zafina's ws 3 trans to SCR