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Postby KiShiDo on Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:14 pm

First @ all... Hi I'm new here so don't flame on me please if somethign similar was already asked. :S

I really love Tekken but I can't understand the story behind the devil gene.

In Tekke 1 and 2 we thought that Devil is a demon which possesed Kazuya and later in Tekken 3 Jin. Ok that wasn't hard.

But in Tekken 4 the devil gene was mentioned the first time and it become more confusing. Jin was stated to inherited the devil gene from his father. In Kazuya's ending Devil is speaking about his other half which eh lost 20 years ago and which seems to possesed Jin. Ok...

In Tekken 5 Jinpachi came to the story with the devil gene as well... Well that was the official prove that Kazuya, Jin and Jinpachi all has the devil gene but it seems that they are different demons inside them.

In Devil jins ending he seems to absorb Jinpachis power and transformed. In Tekken 6 he is normal like always. Kazuya on the other hand didn't do absorb the powers of Jinpachi.

Now I'm a bit confused. How can Jin and Kazuya have the same devil and Jinpachi is having a completly other devil inside him. Is Kazuya holding half of the devil gene as well as Jin?

I hope somebody can help me?

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I really hope Lars don't have the stupid gene.
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby LiliLover on Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:36 pm

KiShiDo wrote:First @ all... Hi I'm new here so don't flame on me please if somethign similar was already asked. :S

I really love Tekken but I can't understand the story behind the devil gene.

In Tekke 1 and 2 we thought that Devil is a demon which possesed Kazuya and later in Tekken 3 Jin. Ok that wasn't hard.

But in Tekken 4 the devil gene was mentioned the first time and it become more confusing. Jin was stated to inherited the devil gene from his father. In Kazuya's ending Devil is speaking about his other half which eh lost 20 years ago and which seems to possesed Jin. Ok...

In Tekken 5 Jinpachi came to the story with the devil gene as well... Well that was the official prove that Kazuya, Jin and Jinpachi all has the devil gene but it seems that they are different demons inside them.

In Devil jins ending he seems to absorb Jinpachis power and transformed. In Tekken 6 he is normal like always. Kazuya on the other hand didn't do absorb the powers of Jinpachi.

Now I'm a bit confused. How can Jin and Kazuya have the same devil and Jinpachi is having a completly other devil inside him. Is Kazuya holding half of the devil gene as well as Jin?

I hope somebody can help me?

BTW
I really hope Lars don't have the stupid gene.


Well Kazuya was thrown into a trench as a kid and happened to live cause a demon like spirit went into his body. When he and Jun had Jin, half of Kaz's DNA went with Jin thus giving Jin the devil gene. Since Kaz gave half of his DNA to Jin, he lost the half part of him which was Devil. Jinpachi on the other hand, was resurrected by a demon, so the demon that possessed him had nothing to do with the Devil Gene I think.

Hope that helped. Also I think Lars won't have Devil Gene. Heihachi doesn't have it so I don't think Lars will have it either
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby Ryuhza on Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:41 pm

LiliLover wrote:
KiShiDo wrote:First @ all... Hi I'm new here so don't flame on me please if somethign similar was already asked. :S

I really love Tekken but I can't understand the story behind the devil gene.

In Tekke 1 and 2 we thought that Devil is a demon which possesed Kazuya and later in Tekken 3 Jin. Ok that wasn't hard.

But in Tekken 4 the devil gene was mentioned the first time and it become more confusing. Jin was stated to inherited the devil gene from his father. In Kazuya's ending Devil is speaking about his other half which eh lost 20 years ago and which seems to possesed Jin. Ok...

In Tekken 5 Jinpachi came to the story with the devil gene as well... Well that was the official prove that Kazuya, Jin and Jinpachi all has the devil gene but it seems that they are different demons inside them.

In Devil jins ending he seems to absorb Jinpachis power and transformed. In Tekken 6 he is normal like always. Kazuya on the other hand didn't do absorb the powers of Jinpachi.

Now I'm a bit confused. How can Jin and Kazuya have the same devil and Jinpachi is having a completly other devil inside him. Is Kazuya holding half of the devil gene as well as Jin?

I hope somebody can help me?

BTW
I really hope Lars don't have the stupid gene.


Well Kazuya was thrown into a trench as a kid and happened to live cause a demon like spirit went into his body. When he and Jun had Jin, half of Kaz's DNA went with Jin thus giving Jin the devil gene. Since Kaz gave half of his DNA to Jin, he lost the half part of him which was Devil. Jinpachi on the other hand, was resurrected by a demon, so the demon that possessed him had nothing to do with the Devil Gene I think.

Hope that helped. Also I think Lars won't have Devil Gene. Heihachi doesn't have it so I don't think Lars will have it either


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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby AEther3 on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:36 pm

ignore Ryuhza.

I don't believe that Heihachi has any chunk of the Devil Bar candy, so no need to worry about Lars having it!, besides u wouldn't see the horns amidst his hair
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby KiShiDo on Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:31 am

I think they pretty fucked up the story.
First it was just devil that possesed Kazuya and than go and possesed Jin. But now it is the devil gene and I don't get the story behind Devil saying his other half and the intro of Tekken 3 which shows his marking Jin.

Devil seems like an other seperate person not like DJ who just can't control his gene.

I don't know if Devil = devil gene or devil something different from the devil gene
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby Mechacide on Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:38 am

KiShiDo wrote:I think they pretty ****** up the story.
First it was just devil that possesed Kazuya and than go and possesed Jin. But now it is the devil gene and I don't get the story behind Devil saying his other half and the intro of Tekken 3 which shows his marking Jin.

Devil seems like an other seperate person not like DJ who just can't control his gene.

I don't know if Devil = devil gene or devil something different from the devil gene


Kazuya made a deal with the Devil (actual Devil) so that he could live and take revenge on his father (Heihachi). Because of this, the Devil took control of Kazuya's soul, and was then a part of Kazuya. And so when Jin was conceived, the Devil became a part of him as well, transferring within the genes that are passed down through generations in human reproduction.

Kazuya was later captured and experimented on, and the Devil gene was extracted from him to be tested and used etc. But the Devil is still active within Jin (though he says he has control over it...)

And that's about it. Devil at the end of Tekken 2 is the actual Devil, but manifesting himself through Kazuya. Angel is the good side of Kazuya, fighting against Devil. Then Devil Jin is half Devil and half Jin, neither one nor the other, but also both.
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby KiShiDo on Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:45 am

Yeah but jinpachi has also the devil gene and some spirit and I doubt that this is the same devil. But Jin still tryed to absorb him? Kazuya not.

But in Tekken 6 Dj is still normal like always.

It seems like the mind of Devil stayed in Kazuya and not in Jin. So why possesing Jin with no mind?
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby Fethennour on Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:34 am

I think you guys forgot something. The Devil Gene is still active in Kazuya.

Remember Kazuya's prologue in Tekken 5 ? When surrounded by JACKs along with his father, Kazuya threw Heihachi to them, before escaping by... turning into Devil and flying away from Honmaru.

Although Kazuya indeed gave his son half of his Devil Gene, it is still active in his body. More than that : the fact that Kazuya turned into Devil by his own will proves that he has now full control on the Devil Gene.

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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby KiShiDo on Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:44 am

So why Devil says he has lost half of his powers if Kazuya is still able to transform to Devil Kazuya?
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby Gamersdan on Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:05 am

KiShiDo wrote:So why Devil says he has lost half of his powers if Kazuya is still able to transform to Devil Kazuya?

same powers but less powerful
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Re: Story behin the Devil Gene

Postby Ryuhza on Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:30 am

Fethennour wrote:I think you guys forgot something. The Devil Gene is still active in Kazuya.

Remember Kazuya's prologue in Tekken 5 ? When surrounded by JACKs along with his father, Kazuya threw Heihachi to them, before escaping by... turning into Devil and flying away from Honmaru.

Although Kazuya indeed gave his son half of his Devil Gene, it is still active in his body. More than that : the fact that Kazuya turned into Devil by his own will proves that he has now full control on the Devil Gene.

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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby Wax on Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:24 pm

Let me give a piece of my mind.

Devil is not related to the devil gene. He maybe needs it to show but whatever.
Devil possesed Kazuya back down that cliff when he was 5.
Then he grew upinside Kazuya's body, but split in half when Jun was pregnant with Jin. Kazuya still has a half of Devil inside him, Jin has the other half. For the case of Jinpachi, it's just another demon (I think).

Now for the Devil Gene.
I don't know for Jinpachi because Heihachi mentions Devil's blood in T5 if he beats Jinpachi.
What I know is Kazuya has it and transmitted it to Jin.

The Devil Gene is what causes the heavy anatomy changes (wings, horns, all else), the Devil surely only has glowing eyes. The separation is evident only within Kazuya because Jin assimilates the Devil Gene to his Devil half-soul. Up to the end of T6 Scenario Campaign, where it seems he uses Devil powers without being controlled by Devil.
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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby Tekkenfan26 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:48 pm

I've been confused about the "Devil Gene" story aswell but as far as im concerned:

- Kazuya gave his soul to the devil to survive and thus he got the devil gene.

- Kazuya can now transform into Devil Kazuya and sometimes into Devil entirely.

- Half of Devil went into Jin when he was born and so Jin contracted the devil gene.

- Jin can now transform into Devil Jin but can't transform into Devil (unlike Kazuya) because he didn't give his soul away.


With Jinpachi i don't think he has the devil gene (he was never mentioned to have it anyway only Wang has said that he has "Devil's blood") i think his ressurection was something to do with Azazel and Kazuya and Jin clashing at the Hon-Maru.

Angel is said too represent the good side of Kazuya (with Devil occupying his bad side) and so i guess Angel and Devil fight for there respective sides (with Devil obviously winning so far) which is probably why Angel has been absent for awhile.

My theory for Tekken 7 is that Angel has given up with Kazuya and flown into Jun or Asuka (the Kazama's seem to have a seperate storyline relating to the Angel gene or something similar) to help fight and heal Kazuya and Jin from Devil considering that both have angelic powers.

If Azazel is the evil of the world then there must be another creature who represents the good of the world right? maybe the Kazama family and Angel have links with the good creature as the Mishima family and Devil obviously have links to Azazel.
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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby teriko on Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:49 pm

the devil gene

it has been reveal that azazel started the devil gene in tekken 6 scenario mode if you play as jin, kazuya, and devil jin on azazel stage.. it is still unknown to how he did, but if you play as kazuya on azazel stage, azazel tells kazuya that kazuya and jin are the creatures he births into the world to undo his seal so he could destroy the world...

jinpachi

indeed jinpachi has the devil gene.. in tekken 5 if you lose against jinpachi and press no continues jinpachi's cinematic ending appear.. jinpachi says that ''it seems that no one was able to stop me'' and he cry blood from his eyes and starts to transform into his final tranformation, and screen goes blank and it says '' jinpachi's mind is fully consumed by the devil as he reaches his final tranformation and the world will never be the same''

this proves that the devil gene was pass down to mishimas long periods ago from azazel and has probably been in their bloodline for long time..
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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby LonerHero on Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:26 pm

Devil Gene has Just !@#$%^& up Tekken Story Kazuya is Azazel servant WTF and yeah He is the one who made devil gene just what the hell!?!??

all i can say is we want real devil not fake one [lurk]
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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby X-Venom on Sat May 05, 2012 9:11 pm

Hey there guys ..... [thumbsup]

I just wanna clear up 1 thing .... Jinpachi didnt had the Devil Gene .... [thumbsdown]

He was possessed by another soul or demon something like that ... It was later cleared by Harada after T5 ...( I guess )

So Jin n Kazuya only have the Devil gene not anyone else .... [lurk] While Kazuya was thrown into a volcano the devil became into 2 parts 1 reamined with Kazuya n saved him n the other went on search for Jin ( Unborn ) but Jun defeated it n it was roaming for over 15 years n when jun was attacked by ogre n she vanished then devil succeeded to yake over Jin ....
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Re: Story behind the Devil Gene

Postby teriko on Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:58 am

X-Venom wrote:Hey there guys ..... [thumbsup]

I just wanna clear up 1 thing .... Jinpachi didnt had the Devil Gene .... [thumbsdown]

He was possessed by another soul or demon something like that ... It was later cleared by Harada after T5 ...( I guess )

So Jin n Kazuya only have the Devil gene not anyone else .... [lurk] While Kazuya was thrown into a volcano the devil became into 2 parts 1 reamined with Kazuya n saved him n the other went on search for Jin ( Unborn ) but Jun defeated it n it was roaming for over 15 years n when jun was attacked by ogre n she vanished then devil succeeded to yake over Jin ....


Actually it doesn't state that devil splitted itself. True that devil came to Jun and tried to possess jin, but he failed. Now as far as him returning to him fifteenth years later possess him is a theory. That was a scene in the opening of tekken 3 and we don't know for sure if devil possess jin in that way, plus in jin's profile it doesn't say that he possess in that way, it just states that he have the devil. Also Harada stated that kazuya was not the first mishima to have the devil gene. He said that kazuya and jin thought it started with jinpachi and that only heihachi knows who is the mishima to had the devil gene. Only heihachi know the truth and he will reveal it in the future. I believe that it started with kazumi.
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