Latest Tekken 6 trailer

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

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You've always seemed to care a lot about the graphics of the game. I'm not saying that's bad or weird or anything, I'm just saying that you shouldn't worry; I'm sure the graphics will be great.

, because I was awestruck by SoulCalibur IV's impressive and shiny graphics.

"IMPRESSIVE" man I played that game on my HD tv with HDMI cable in and that game still was lookin almost as same as T5DR just a little better I promise to T6BR graphics will own SCIV graphics

[Lun-Sei]

"IMPRESSIVE" man I played that game on my HD tv with HDMI cable in and that game still was lookin almost as same as T5DR just a little better I promise to T6BR graphics will own SCIV graphics

Ehrrr, does your tv have some problems....? One thing is saying "I personally didn't like SC4's graphics that much"...... and a whole different thing is comparing it to the Tekken 5 graphics.


SoulCalibur 4:






Tekken 5:





....The fact I compared Tekken 5's graphics to Tekken 6's graphics because of some screenshots I saw, means that you can disprove me by replying "you haven't played Tekken 6 so you don't know about his graphics". But it DOESN'T mean you can say "no, SoulCalinur IV's graphics suck" because I own the actual game and I know how impressive and definited its graphics are.

[Lun-Sei]

Isn't that picture of Lili from the PSP version of Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection--it looks as though its missing quite a bit of detail. Tekken 5 for the PS2 had better graphics than that.
Tekken 6 arcade looks much better than the picture you sent of of Lili.

I SHOULD HOPE SO!!! If a brand new PS3 videogame has the identical graphics of an old PSP videogame, I'd get worried!! XD Or did you mean "Tekken 5 arcade"?
This was a SC4 vs Tekken 5 comparison, anyway. Not that it should have been necessary, to tell the truth.

Question: exactly at what point of the game is that shot of the Soul Calibur IV character? is it an interlude, pre-fight or what? It's difficult to compare Tekken 6 to that, as none of Tekken 6's in-game camera angles are like that; moreover, it's impossible to compare characters in their default costumes with that character, as we're comparing clothing with armor. That said, I still feel Tekken 6 is superior as the mapping of fabrics is pretty impressive in Tekken 6, as your eye can see different fabrics on characters. Even Roger Jr.'s mother's fur has detail

kuri

It's from a pre-fight animation. Or from a victory animation, I don't remember - but it doesn't make any difference.

I don't know, I keep comparing screenshots (since I can't compare the actual games as you know we don't have Tekken 6 arcades here), and I keep seeing SoulCalibur 4's graphics as the superior ones. Luckily, screenshots aren't a fully reliable source so I'll have to wait the actual videogame. But so far, I'm not fully convinced about Tekken 6's graphics. They certainly don't look bad, of course. But just HOW good are they?

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

"IMPRESSIVE" man I played that game on my HD tv with HDMI cable in and that game still was lookin almost as same as T5DR just a little better I promise to T6BR graphics will own SCIV graphics

Ehrrr, does your tv have some problems....? One thing is saying "I personally didn't like SC4's graphics that much"...... and a whole different thing is comparing it to the Tekken 5 graphics.


SoulCalibur 4:






Tekken 5:





....The fact I compared Tekken 5's graphics to Tekken 6's graphics because of some screenshots I saw, means that you can disprove me by replying "you haven't played Tekken 6 so you don't know about his graphics". But it DOESN'T mean you can say "no, SoulCalinur IV's graphics suck" because I own the actual game and I know how impressive and definited its graphics are.

My TV ain't got no problem Besides the pic of T5DR u gave is from PSP and if u actually play tekken 5 DR(PS3 version) on Samsung HD with HDMI cable in and then u see that DR graphics are great and smooth not like in SCIV demo some places are too blurred some are to sharp or not enough blurred IMHO

[CHALLENGER 1980]

LOL if PS3's T5 looked that horrible.

SC4 graphics are not that bad. If you really think so, I suggest you get a BIGGER and BETTER TV. Running it on a 19inch black and white may make things a little shatty.
In fact you can't even compare T5 to T6 or SC4 anymore. It would be like comparing TTT on PS2 to T5DR on PS3. LOL
T6BR has some real crisppy graphics.

[CHALLENGER 1980]

Ohhh BTW.

KING and AK have a real nice close up like that SC4 screen and it's way clearer.

[Lun-Sei]

My TV ain't got no problem Besides the pic of T5DR u gave is from PSP and if u actually play tekken 5 DR(PS3 version) on Samsung HD with HDMI cable in and then u see that DR graphics are great and smooth not like in SCIV demo some places are too blurred some are to sharp or not enough blurred IMHO

I have both the full SoulCalibur IV game and the full Tekken 5 DR game for my PS3.
Comparing Tekken 5's graphics to SC4's graphics is still absurd. Tekken 5's graphics are those of an old-gen game. Sure, PS3 makes them look smoother, obviously. But they're still.... PS2-like graphics.
SoulCalibur 4 has PS3 next-gen graphics. I think they are impressive, too. You may think they are not - but even so you STILL can't compare nextgen graphics to oldgen graphics!!!

Comparing T5's graphics to SC4's graphics is absurd.

[Lun-Sei]

Comparing Soul Calibur IV, a DVD game to a UMD game isn't fair.

This is the point! I wanted to compare Tekken 6 to SoulCalibur 4, which is a fair comparison, and I don't know how we ended up comparing Tekken 5 to SoulCalibur 4, which makes no sense. It's obvious and undeniable that SoulCalibur 4's graphics are superior if pitted against those of Tekken 5, and one shouldn't even try the comparison!

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection Online is pretty impressive on a STANDARD TV, which is why I knew that picture of Lili was taken from the PSP. Regular Tekken 5 (PS2), too.

I think Tekken 5's graphics really suck on a PS3. When I played Tekken 5 on my PSP, I was always going "wow, it's impressive, I've never seen such graphics on a PSP, woooah, it's great". But when I played the same game on a PS3, no matter how it was more polished, I couldn't help but go like "Geeze, it sure sucks to waste a PS3's potential by using it to play a game with such crappy graphics and animations".

Why not? Tekken or Soul Calibur gives you angles yo normally wouldn't see during regular game-play.

What I meant is that it doesn't matter if it was a pre-fight or a post-fight animation; I didn't meant that it didn't make difference if it was during battle or if it was an animation.

We should also keep in mind that Tekken is a dark game with dark themes, and Soul Calibur is quite the opposite. Some things are just going to look better with light and others will look better without it.

kuri

This is true, but even if they have very different atmosphere, I think an overall quality comparison is still possible. And of course I can't make it until I finally play Tekken 6.

[Lun-Sei]

Kuri, I don't understand your post at all. Have you really read mine?

This is the point! I wanted to compare Tekken 6 to SoulCalibur 4, which is a fair comparison, and I don't know how we ended up comparing Tekken 5 to SoulCalibur 4, which makes no sense. It's obvious and undeniable that SoulCalibur 4's graphics are superior if pitted against those of Tekken 5, and one shouldn't even try the comparison!

The picture you've posted of Lili, nine or so posts up, is from Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection (PSP). You're making an apples and oranges comparison. DVDs aren't bound by the same limitations of UMDs and the PSP, as good as it may be, does NOT have the same processing power as a PS2, PS3, XBOX or XBOX360.

If you're going to compare graphics at least do it with games presented on similar formats.

This is precisely what I was meaning, when I wrote all what you can read over here..... I did state that comparing Tekken 5 to SoulCalibur 4 is nonsense. So why are you addressing that comment to me?

Dark Resurrection Online is our only HD Tekken so, yeah, I think comparing it with Soul Calibur IV is fair; however, we shouldn't forget that Dark Resurrection was retooled, not built from the ground up, for the PS3. Soul Calibur IV on the other hand WAS built from the ground up for Next Gen gaming, which in away, doesn't make for a fair comparison really. Tekken 6 is the ONLY Tekken truly built for Next Gen gaming. You may not be satisfied until you actually see the game for yourself, and even then you may feel let down, though I think that'd be pretty hard, as Tekken 6 (either version) is bounds better than Dark Resurrection Online.

I don't understand wether you're implying that it is fair - or that it is unfair - to compare Tekken 5 and SC4?

Tekken 6 is the ONLY Tekken truly built for Next Gen gaming. You may not be satisfied until you actually see the game for yourself, and even then you may feel let down, though I think that'd be pretty hard, as Tekken 6 (either version) is bounds better than Dark Resurrection Online.

I don't understand wether you're implying that I will be satisfied with the graphics, or that I will be dissatisfied with the graphics??

Oh, and I thought it was a given that Tekken 6 is bounds better than Tekken 5. Or Namco'd better sell their videogaming company, isn't it.

Personally, I feel Tekken 6 has better graphics than Soul Calibur IV, but my opinion is most likely biased.

I don't understand wether you're implying it has better graphics than SC4, or not! Kuri, what are you doing. XD

Anyway, if I were to judge only from the screenshots, I'd say SC4 has the best graphics. But I can't judge only from the screenshots; I need to try Tekken 6 too before expressing a final judgement.

I'm shocked to hear you say the PSP's version of Tekken 5 is graphically superior to the PS3, as that is impossible. But if you like the PSP version better, hey, you like it better

When did I ever say it was graphically superior? Actually, I wrote: "when I played the same game on a PS3, no matter how it was more polished".
Which means that even if on the PS3 that game's graphics are obviously way more definited, it's still Tekken 5's graphics. And Tekekn 5's graphics anyway look very impressive on a PSP but look very very poor on a PS3. Is that so difficult to grasp? I'm worried I'm not really expressing myself properly when I'm using english.

[V-4]

Nice discussion

I have sleep problems a lot of times and thx to this,, i finally have my sleep back xD

Thx

[Lun-Sei]

You brought up the comparison with your pictures.

I'm NOT the one who wanted to do something as crazy as to compare Tekken 5 to SoulCalibur 4!! Did you follow the whole topic - it was all because Aminkazama insisted that Tekken 5's graphics were better than those of SoulCalibur 4. He's the one who dared the crazy comparison, not me. All my discussion about that only followed his absurd statement.
You should tell -him- about how silly it is to compare those two games and how SC4 is necessarily superior. You shouldn't tell -me-, since I agree with you!

You played the same game on two different systems. The PSP version wowed you, the PS3's did not. You did say that you hadn't seen such graphics on the PSP, but the fact that you were oohing and awing over the PSP and not the PS3 lead me to believe that you think the PSP's graphics are superior, and when you couple that with PSP Lili picture you used for comparisons purposes, I started to think that that was the case My apologies if I've misunderstood.

kuri

Yes, you misunderstood. Actually, I'm not even sure that Lili screenshot is from the PSP version. It may have been from the PS2 version.
And what is so difficult to understand about Tekken 5 being an impressive, excellent game for a portable console, but being crappy and old for a next-gen console? Because one is a portable console and the other is a next-gen console, it's obvious that the same, identical videogame can bring such different reactions depending on which gaming machine is it played on.

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

Lun-Sei
What I actually meant to say that T5DR for PS3 wasn't made as next gen. game it was still old gen.system but SCIV was made as next gen. game and yet T5DR at some points catching up to SCIV and even superior it.But overall SCIV is better coz it is afterall a next gen. game.But SCIV is no where near to T6BR graphics if u actually play it just on Arcades u'll see and now imagine playin it on HD tv with hdmi cable huh? It will just make SCIV graphics looks like a crap (which it is for a next.gen. game) so no needs to worry

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

Yes, you misunderstood. Actually, I'm not even sure that Lili screenshot is from the PSP version. It may have been from the PS2 version.

It can't be coz Lili wasn't in T5 ps2 version and so Ak and Dragunov.

[Lun-Sei]

Lun-Sei
What I actually meant to say that T5DR for PS3 wasn't made as next gen. game it was still old gen.system but SCIV was made as next gen. game and yet T5DR at some points catching up to SCIV and even superior it.But overall SCIV is better coz it is afterall a next gen. game.But SCIV is no where near to T6BR graphics if u actually play it just on Arcades u'll see and now imagine playin it on HD tv with hdmi cable huh? It will just make SCIV graphics looks like a crap (which it is for a next.gen. game) so no needs to worry

No, I still don't understand how can you say that SC4's graphics are crap. Did you see the screenshots of that game which I have posted in this thread? ....Well, SC4 looks exactly like that when I play it on my PS3, so those screenshots represent exactly the graphical quality of the product. And I think those graphics are very cool. My only complaint is that they look very, very anime-ish (if they were to look that good AND realistic too, then I'd just worship SC4). But that's a stylistic choice, not a problem of graphical quality. And here we're talking about graphics, not style. Thus, I say SC4's graphics are quite good.
Now, Tekken 6. I can judge it only from the screenshots... and I don't know if those screenshots correspond to the truth. But I really hope you're right in saying they're superior to those of SC4 (which are already good). That's what I want!!

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

@ Kuri I actually admited that overall SCIV does superior T5DR but at some points T5DR is better
Oh yeah also Eddy is playable in T5.0(PS2 version)

[Lun-Sei]

Well, the point is, I don't care about a Tekken 5 graphics VS SoulCalibur 4 graphics comparison, because I have both games and I can see with my own eyes which game is the superior of the two. If Aminkazama thinks otherwise, it feels to me like someone insisting that the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, but what the heck, everyone's free to think what they want so let's forget this lenghty discussion.

And let's return to what I actually wanted to talk about SoulCalibur 4's graphics VS Tekken 6's graphics!

[KevlarX290]

@ Kuri I actually admited that overall SCIV does superior T5DR but at some points T5DR is better
Oh yeah also Eddy is playable in T5.0(PS2 version)

Eddy isn't playable by himself in Tekken 5. He's a customization of Christie. Gamers who have 500,000g and Christie can purchase the customization.

kuri

...it sounds like you're talking about the arcades. But anyway, yeah, you do have to purchase Christie's 'Extra Outfit' to unlock Eddy. But how does being unlocked differently change the fact that he is playable in Tekken 5 (PS2)?

Speaking of Eddy in T5, if you select him in Team Battle, you will not be able to select Christie directly. However, if you go with Eddy and have your other characters random, you will have a chance of getting Christie as one of your random fighters. Talk about foreshadowing their split in the character select screen in DR.

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

If Aminkazama thinks otherwise, it feels to me like someone insisting that the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, but what the heck, everyone's free to think what they want so let's forget this lenghty discussion.

So basically u just called me an idiot ??

[Lun-Sei]

So basically u just called me an idiot ??

Back in the old days, every single person thought that the Earth was flat. But I really don't think they were all idiots! XD

No, I called you someone who believes a thing that is wrong. I swear, I didn't mean to offend you! I only implied that I think it's absurd to say Tekken 5 is superior to SC4.

Anyway you got a point, I may have sounded harsh without realizing it. It's my problem - sometimes I should think more carefully about the words I choose. Sorry!!

[Ghetto_Dawg_KZ_FTW]

No, I called you someone who believes a thing that is wrong. I swear, I didn't mean to offend you! I only implied that I think it's absurd to say Tekken 5 is superior to SC4.

But overall SCIV is better

Anyway you got a point, I may have sounded harsh without realizing it. It's my problem - sometimes I should think more carefully about the words I choose. Sorry!!

It ok

Differences settled? *looks around for raised hands*

Eddy isn't playable by himself in Tekken 5. He's a customization of Christie. Gamers who have 500,000g and Christie can purchase the customization

Well u do get a reward for him once u beat the arcade mode